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Product-Led People Experience ⚡️: The future of HR? (with Luke O'Mahoney)


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Product-Led People Experience (PX). It’s a fresh, practical approach to HR, based on treating the employee experience like a product, and applying Product/UX thinking to solve organizational challenges and design, test and improve their People Experience.


The results: smashed HR silos, faster, more impactful business wins, and a shift in HR’s traditional role from admin support to strategic business growth driver.


It’s a hot topic for many progressive People leaders, including today’s guest star Luke O’Mahoney. Luke is founder of SapienX, creator of the PX Espresso newsletter/podcast and an all-round Product-Led PX guru.


He joins 7people People & Culture consultants Paul and Florentine to:

💡 Bust the PX Product jargon (it’s really just a mindset shift)

💡 Share his best tips for working product-based NOW

💡 Outline the step-by-step Product-Led PX process cycle


In Luke’s words: If we want to think differently about HR, we need to think differently IN HR. With this episode you can start today!


Want more PX?

Things got so nerdy, we didn’t have enough time to cover it all in 1 episode. FOLLOW the show for 2 upcoming extra mini bonus episodes, deep diving into:

  1. Product-based alternatives to engagement surveys
  2. PX as a subscription product: How does it work in practice?


Other PX people and books mentioned in the show:

Megan Trotter

Jessica Zwaan

Matt Lerner

Eric Reese (The Lean Start-Up)

Patrick Lencioni (Seven Dysfunctions of a team)


CHAPTERS


Background

00:00 About today’s guest - Luke O’Mahoney

02:19 What IS “PX as a product”?


Basics: What is Product-Led thinking

05:01 Product-Led thinking: Problem vs Solution-first

07:21 The 5 Whys & minimising waste


PX in practice

09:07 Case study: create a flexible work policy

11:45 Research phase

12:38 Identify the why (double 🔹)

14:51 Build the Min Viable Product

15:48 Design & iteration: Validation learning loop

17:12 Tricks: Smokescreen MVP & A-B testing

19:08 Moving from MVP → pilot

20:09 Design for the worst affected user

21:17 Step 1 = MINDSET

22:08 How long to test?

26:36 Boosting strategic impact

30:33 Shifting HR admin to enablement


Intermezzo: Would you rather have…

32:36 HR specialists vs product managers?


Practical tips

35:31 Easy ways to work product-led NOW

38:18 Summary: Our key takeaways

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