Hello and welcome to another episode of Nevertheless, Shlee Persisted! This is an exciting episode friends! We have our very first recurring guest...Patrick Phalen IV! Wohoo! Join us as we talk about our hall passes, how the heck meditation works, and the pressure behind productivity! As always, you can find me on Instagram @neverthelessshleepersisted for all the behind the scenes goodies! Have a great week! xoxo