Professor Petra Wend - a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 2015, Commander of the Order of the British Empire in the 2021 New Year Honours, and former Vice-Convener of Universities Scotland - says her roles and contributions have been driven by trying to make things better for students.

In half an hour, Judyth and Petra discuss starting from a place of disadvantage, family pressure, a 'sink or swim' university culture, and what universities should be working on now - from digital gaps, flexibility and support, inclusivity and fundamentally changing the public's definition of a university.