Host, Elisabeth Braw, speaks with Professor Sir David Omand, former director of the UK's GCHQ, about cyber-espionage: how governments can defend against it, how should they retaliate, and how our adopting a spy mindset can help make the world safer.

Prof Sir David Omand on cyber-espionage and why we should all think like spies

Elisabeth Braw, scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, presents 'On the Cusp' which focuses on how governments, business and civil society can work together to strengthen countries' defence against existing and emerging threats. Each episode she interviews a guest who is a leader in their respective field.

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Prof Sir David Omand on cyber-espionage and why we should all think like spies

Prof Sir David Omand on cyber-espionage and why we should all think like spies