Welcome to Gettin’ Historical With It, a student-led podcast from the University of Toronto Mississauga. I’m your host, Nihal Naqvi, joined by co-host Selena Haddad and our guest, Professor Julie MacArthur. In this episode, we discuss her paper, Decolonizing Sovereignty: States of Exception along the Kenya-Somali Frontier. Professor MacArthur explores how colonial power structures persist through states of exception, shaping governance and marginalizing Somali communities. We examine historical legacies, struggles for self-determination, and the possibilities of decolonizing sovereignty today.