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In this episode of That First Mile Podcast, Randy brings back Ana (Therapist) and Paola for a conversation how the ideas in Atomic Habits can help you stop relying on motivation and start building systems that work—even on low-energy days.

We discuss what works, what is more difficult in real life, and how to form habits without becoming burned out or striving for perfection. This episode is ideal if you've ever had trouble staying motivated, being consistent, or "starting over."