Renée DiResta is an associate research professor at Georgetown’s McCourt School of Public Policy and the author of “Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality.”

This is the complete audio of an interview I recorded with Renée on Tuesday, December 17. The Ink previously published a condensed and edited version of our conversation. Head here to read it: “How to fight an epidemic of bad faith.”

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