On today's episode Shawna and Jay talk to Spencer Carpenter, the founder of Outlier Audio, a full service podcast booking agency that represents talented entrepreneurs, business professionals, and investors, specializing in real estate investors. What makes a podcast tick? Why is it the new avenue for marketing yourself? What makes them so successful? Let's talk about it.

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Shawna and Jay talk the ins and outs of true madness of property management with Mat Pezon, the CEO of Pezon Properties. A former chemical engineer turned real estate investor. Owner of 200 apartments with no investors or partners located in Pennsylvania. Check out Pezon Properties at Pezonproperties.com

Jay and Shawna talk about the reinvention of construction and get back to the basics with Mike Kaeding. Mike Kaeding is CEO of Norhart. They design, build and rent apartments. They are transforming the way this is done by incorporating technologies and techniques that have revolutionized other industries. Check him out at https://www.norhart.com/

Shawna and Jay discuss the ins and outs of Forced Asset appreciation with Mike Marshall, CEO of Tolosa Property Group.

Jay and Shawna discuss VOIP communications with Chris Burgy from Oooma, a leader in the communications industry. We talk the ins and outs of communications and what should we be using as experts in our industry to be the most efficient in today's world. Check them out at Ooma.com!

Shawna and Jay discuss the importance of landscaping and curb appeal. We discuss the pain points that property managers, owners, and landscaping companies face. How do we ensure that everyone is happy and the best outcome is achieved? Guest speaker today is Bryan Clayton, CEO of GreenPal, an online platform that connects homeowners with local lawn care professionals. Under Bryan's leadership, GreenPal has grown into a multi-million dollar company with over 200,000 active users and has been featured in publications like Forbes, Inc. and Entrepreneur. Check them out at https://www.yourgreenpal.com/

Shawna and Jay discuss the importance of one of the most ignored types of maintenance, preventative maintenance! Back with us again is Joe, a seasoned maintenance tech and turnover specialist who dives in with us to discuss the WHY and how to keep it simple.

Jay and Shawna break down the nightmare that is pests. Where do they start? How does it start? What can we do as professionals in our industry to contain these issues and ensure that we're protecting the asset. Guest with us today is Walt, a seasoned pest control technician who is here to break it down with us!

Shawna and Jay take a deep dive into what is going on in today's Real Estate market. It's a much bigger animal than it looks like and we're discussing how the recent drastic market changes are effecting investors, end users, and renters. Join us for this dive in with our guest Brian, a savvy Agent working daily in today's crazy market!

Shawna and Jay have guest speaker Melanie on the show today. They discuss the HUD grant Service Coordinator program ins and outs. The good, the bad, and the Oh Lord, I didn't want to know that.