This is the first in a series of episodes on software delivery flow. This is a remix on the typical episode format. It features a snippet from my ongoing conversations with my friend Jocko Selberg. Jocko and I discuss the idea of "Proto-Epics" as the artifact that joins the discovery and delivery process.

Find Jocko on LinkedIn and check-out his own show the Complexity Lounge on YouTube.

• (00:00) - Proto-Epics