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The human mind creates models and symbols to represent everything that it "knows". When these are models of tangible items it is clear what the mind is doing. But when it comes time to represent intangible things it is a little less clear. Very often we use comparisons between tangible and intangible things to assist in communicating to each other what we think of the intangible things. In this way, it is possible that there is a bridge that can be built in the mind between the tangible and intangible. I call this Pseudotangibility. In this episode I discuss with Stephen Mather the possibility that pseudotangibility might be assisting people to believe in unreal things. This is a continuation of our previous conversation from episode 66 of this podcast.