This episode originally aired Jan 23, 2009. It is being re-uploaded to iTunes.

In this episode I talk about the recent departure of Deo formerly of Deo's Shadow podcast from the Pagan community and the podcasting world. Also I talk about Deo's change to atheism and how that relates to the larger issue of the nature of belief. What does belief or faith require and how is it created? I talk some about that as well.