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Does "do not be afraid" mean you shouldn't feel fear? A Christian therapist explains the gap between feeling an emotion and acting on it.
Episode summary
Is it wrong to feel afraid, angry, or sad? And what does the Bible mean when it says "do not be afraid"? In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Kia Gutiérrez explains the most important distinction in her approach to emotions: feeling an emotion and acting on it are two different things.
Kia introduces what she calls the gap between feeling and acting: a pause where you honestly acknowledge everything you feel, whether or not it makes sense, and then take time to read Scripture and discern what to do. Sometimes the gap lasts a second, and sometimes days, weeks, or even years.
Using her own fear about recording this very episode as an example, Kia shows how fear can point to a question about connection, whether your bond with God or other people will hold. She explores why "do not be afraid" in Scripture often shows up when God is calling someone to do something brave, which suggests it can't simply mean "don't feel fear." Reading the Bible in light of what its author meant, she argues, helps us avoid using Scripture to shut down an emotion God created, and leads to a deeper sense of closeness with Him.
You'll also hear why relearning how to feel and read Scripture can be scary (and why therapy can help), why the process is a productive mess instead of a chaotic one, and a closing question to take with you: Is it clear that feeling an emotion and acting on it two very different things?
Is the Bible a rulebook, a love letter, or something else? How you answer shapes what you do with your emotions.
Episode summary
Why does the Bible sometimes feel contradictory, uncomfortable, or hard to apply, especially when it comes to your feelings? In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Kia Gutiérrez explores how to read Scripture, the Old and New Testament, in light of what its authors were trying to communicate.
Kia explains how the lens we bring to the Bible, whether a rulebook to follow or a love letter written to us, shapes the answers we find and what we decide to do with our emotions. She proposes reading the Bible as a written document from an ancient community, shaped by its cultural context and inspired by the Holy Spirit, using Genesis 1 as an example of asking what the author was actually saying.
She also draws a parallel between Scripture and emotions: both are tools with a specific purpose, and just as a hammer makes a poor saw, using either one in a way it wasn't designed for leads to struggle and disappointment. Along the way, you'll hear how relearning both can bring peace to the places that feel contradictory, and how to sort which emotions to act on and which to sit with, and which Scripture guides your life directly and which shapes the way you see the world.
You'll finish with a question to carry into your week: how does it feel to relearn how to read the Bible and how to feel your emotions?
I'm a therapist, and I swore off emotions at 19. Here's why I changed my mind, and what an emotion actually is.
Episode summary
What is an emotion? Christians hear very different answers. Some say emotions are spiritual forces, like angels or demons influencing you. Others say they're a weakness of the flesh that Scripture warns us not to trust.
In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Kia Gutiérrez shares why she swore off emotions at 19 after a painful moment leading worship, and why, as someone who still isn't a big fan of feeling them, she believes feeling our emotions is the most efficient way to get rid of the feeling and make wise choices.
You'll hear her definition of an emotion at the intersection of faith and psychology: a chemical process in your body that has hugely significant spiritual meaning. It's not an attack imposed on us from outside, and it's not something to press down and ignore. Drawing on Genesis 1 and the idea that we're made in God's image, Kia explains why she believes there's a message in every emotion that points toward a foundational truth, one that helps us make wise decisions and build healthy relationships.
She also steers between two extremes: that every negative emotion is a spiritual attack and every positive one a blessing, or that emotions are terrible and should never be felt.
Then she leaves you with one question to sit with: how does it feel to know your emotions were given to you by God, with a purpose you get to discern?
Curious about Christian therapy but not sure where to start, and tired of church feeling complicated? I've been thinking about you. Let's talk.
Episode summary
You've been thinking about therapy, but finding a Christian therapist (and a safe church) feels complicated, and your feelings keep getting in the way of the next step. In this first voice note, licensed marriage and family therapist Kia Gutiérrez talks about the two things that won't change, no matter how fast the world moves: you were created with emotions, and God's Word.
What does change is how we read Scripture and how we respond to our emotions. You'll hear why emotions work like a map from God for what to do next, why healing from church hurt and growing in emotional intelligence are part of the same bigger conversation, and what to expect from Psychology and Scripture: short episodes with real psychology, real Bible, and one thing to chew on this week.
No homework, just more awareness of who God made you to be.
From the publisher's feed
Is it a sin to feel angry? Pull up a chair. Psychology and Scripture is a short, friendly Christian podcast about emotions, mental health, and therapy, where real psychology meets…
I'm Kia Gutiérrez, a Christian therapist: a licensed marriage and family therapist with over fifteen years of experience, and a floundering faith walker-outer. As a therapist, I believe there is a way of feeling our emotions that leads us to the healthiest choices we can make. How we do that is the part we should unpack.
Each episode is short: a nugget of Christian psychology, a look at what the Bible says, and one thing to chew on this week. Not more to do, just more awareness of who God made you to be, and the confidence to do the next right thing.
Our first series follows my book Emotions as Messengers. Start at the beginning or jump in wherever your question is.
This podcast is for education and encouragement and is not a substitute for therapy or professional mental health care.
Looking for conversations about the American church? Check out my first podcast, The Church We Dream Of.