Steve, Dan, and Holly introduce Dr. Brenda Tillman and Ben Wescott in their seventh podcast. Dr. Tillman discusses her experience as a clinician, and Ben introduces himself. Dr. Tillman details the difference between PTSD and PTSI, and why those differences are important when diagnosing first responders. Counseling programs for first responders are overviewed, as well as the training process for counselors counseling first responders.

Dr. Tillman reviews the process of EMDR and why it is effective for improving symptoms of PTSI and PTSD. The physiological effects of PTSD and PTSI are detailed. Steve talks about his experience with EMDR. Coping mechanisms in first responders are debated. Dr. Tillman talks about the importance of normalizing the symptoms of PTSI in first responders, and why peer support group and counseling is so essential.