On today’s show, I’ll be presenting conservative and progressive perspectives around public lands and its perilous future under the Trump administration’s “drill baby drill” policy.  We’ll hear from David Jenkins of Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship and Hollin Kretzmann of Center for Biological Diversity.   We’ll switch gears and speak to friends of the show Stacy Malkan of US Right to Know with a recap of her 2025 and plans for 2026.

Music on today’s show:  Auld Ang Syne by Duke Ellington

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