Barry Sykes lives and works in Walthamstow, London. He makes sculptures, drawings and performance about authenticity, interaction and pleasure, often working at the edges of value, skill and acceptable behaviour. Recent projects have looked at fake laughter exercises, social nudity and sauna culture, using group participation and various handmade processes like cyanotype photography, life-drawing and rough ceramics.

In this episode Sophie Hope and Barry Sykes sit in Barry's studio in Walthamstow and discuss his current art project exploring permissable spaces for respite, refusal and reclining through drawing, making, waiting, witnessing and sweating.