Jennifer Hilt didn’t set out to become an authority on tropes. She set out to answer a question that had been nagging at her—and then just kept pulling on the thread. In this conversation, Jennifer talks about how a lifelong passion for language that her earlier career never fully tapped became the foundation for her Trope Thesaurus series, why she chose to forge her own path rather than pursue a PhD in the subject, what happened when she cold-queried Joanna Penn’s podcast before she’d ever done a single interview, and how she learned that persistence—not strategy—is what moves you up the food chain. She also shares why even her “play” feeds the work, and what she’s thinking about next.

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