In this episode, Kel and Cody dive into a wide range of topics—from personal health updates and the competitive bodybuilding scene to the evolving political landscape. They discuss the impact of ketamine treatment, the pressures faced by young bodybuilders, and the complex identities of political figures like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Pence, including Pence's surprising stance against Trump. The conversation shifts to America’s growing health crisis, highlighting alarming stats on chronic diseases, mental health struggles, and the role of medication. Kel and Cody explore the need for policy changes to tackle childhood chronic illnesses, the evaluation of mental health treatments, and the influence of capitalism on public health. They also discuss government strategies, transparency in health data, and the potential for universal basic income in response to AI-driven job loss. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of critical thinking in navigating today’s polarized and digital world.