Episode 115: On this holiday encore episode of Pursuit of Profit, we revisit some of our most popular episodes in 2025. Our second holiday rerun features Cliff speaking with Houston Barnes, franchise attorney and founder of BarnesLaw.

Thinking about buying a franchise? STOP—until you hear this. Houston will uncover the legal landmines, red flags, and essential truths inside the Franchise Disclosure Document (FDD). Whether you're a first-time buyer or a seasoned entrepreneur, this conversation could save you from costly mistakes. Take a listen...

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04:03 - Why Houston chose franchise law

07:16 - Why you should hire a franchise attorney

12:12 - What's the #1 problem that you hear

17:14 - What are the red flags in the franchise documents

28:48 - Breaking down the FDD

35:25 - When to reach out to a franchise attorney

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Episode 114: On this holiday encore episode of Pursuit of Profit, we revisit some of our most popular episodes in 2025. Our first holiday rerun features Cliff speaking with Bryan Weinstein, founder and CEO of Bar-B-Clean franchise, which previously aired May 14, 2025.

Bryan is disrupting a new area of home services with a barbecue cleaning service. 80% of US households owns a BBQ grill nearly all of them are filthy. In an industry with almost no serious competition, Bryan's franchisees are pulling in some serious numbers. Some of them are doing over a million dollars a year in revenue with system-wide averages of over $400,000. We'll talk about his labor light model, multiple revenue streams and how Bar-B-Clean makes it easy to acquire customers in a space where most competitors don't even answer the phone. Take a listen...

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

03:25 - How Bar-B-Clean started

08:28 - Seasonality

13:33 - What sets you apart?

22:20 - Labor model

29:30 - Why you need to clean your BBQ

32:36 - Revenue streams

34:00 - Item 19

37:12 - Non-brick & mortar

42:50 - Initial investment

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On this Pursuit of Profit (POP) Pulse, Cliff takes on the collapse of Orangetheory Fitness and why the entire boutique fitness category is under serious pressure. From oversaturation and stagnant workouts to GLP-1 weight loss drugs and shifting consumer behavior, this episode explains what went wrong and what franchise investors must understand before making a costly mistake. This is a must listen(watch)...

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Welcome to "Pursuit of Profit," the raw and unfiltered podcast where Cliff pulls no punches to guide aspiring entrepreneurs, business owners, and franchisees on their journey to create wealth, financial abundance, and ultimate personal growth. If you're seeking sugar-coated advice and constant reassurance, this podcast may not be for you. But if you crave unapologetic honesty and a dose of tough love, then you've come to the right place.

Episode 113: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Charolette Obringer, president of Medi Weightloss franchise. We're diving into one of the fastest growing and most impactful sectors in franchising -- medical weight loss. The need for clinically backed sustainable weight loss management solutions has never been greater, and few brands have made a bigger difference than Medi Weightloss since 2005.

With over a hundred clinics open Medi Weightloss has built a scalable, profitable model that blends purpose and performance. Take a listen...

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:27 - Charolette's background

04:30 - Medi Weightloss history

07:12 - Franchise staffing

10:20 - Income sources

31:08 - Avg. ticket

37:31 - The numbers

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Episode 112: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Chris King, CEO of Monster Mini Golf franchise - an indoor black light, mini golf and arcade experience built on affordable, fun, family connection, and a monster themed atmosphere that's really unforgettable. 

When the founders retired, Chris, along with three top performing franchisees bought the brand and transformed it from a regional concept into a national force. Under his leadership, Monster Mini Golf has grown from 29 locations to over 60 generating average unit revenue north of $1.1 million all in a 9,000 to 15,000 square foot model. Take a listen...

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:14 - Chris’s journey in franchising

05:00 - Chris’s journey with Monster Mini Golf

16:35 - Revenue streams

34:50 - Item 7

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Episode 111: We're pulling from the archives (November 2023) for this Thanksgiving episode of Pursuit of Profit. This holiday season Cliff and Justin discuss the attitude of gratitude as it relates to owning your own business - stay positive and remain optimistic, habits of negative people and how to avoid this cycle.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:07 - Amy Nixon comment

06:30 - Affordability is at it's worst

11:06 - Small business optimism

12:54 - Tucker Carlson comment

17:01 - Negativity

24:47 - Gratitude list

24:37 - 8 Habits of Negativity

34:40 - How to avoid the cycle of negativity

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Episode 110: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Bret Schneider, co-founder of WOW Windowboxes. This company is reinventing the art of outdoor container gardening by combining year-round custom designed planting and maintenance-free irrigation for homes and businesses. Built with scalability in mind, the corporate owned locations generate over $4.5 million in annual sales serving an impressive 80% residential customer base with a year-round offering that keeps cash flow consistent every season.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:40 - Bret's story of WOW Windowboxes

05:38 - Windowbox product

10:00 - Building the windowboxes

12:34 - Irrigation process

14:20 - No seasonality to the business

16:00 - Labor model

17:29 - Who's your customer base

21:20 - Staffing

24:46 - Average ticket for residential customer

29:44 - Item 19

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Episode 109: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Tim Dougherty, founder and CEO of Project LeanNation. Tim grew up in tough circumstances, made decisions that landed him in federal prison and carried the weight of that shame for years. But instead of letting it define him, he rebuilt his life. Starting with the gym, a handful of prepped meals and a desire to help others. That small spark has grown into Project Lean Nation, a rapidly scaling healthy prepared meal franchise with over 80 units sold and more than 30 operating. Take a listen to this inspiring story about a profitable franchise.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:15 - Tim's story

16:00 - Business model

17:10 - Food

24:05 - Personalizing the program

32:05 - Numbers (avg. price & item 19)

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Episode 108: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Travis Kososki, founder and CEO of Alsie's. Travis is reinventing one of America's most nostalgic traditions, the ice cream truck. What started as a family project during the pandemic, Alsie's is a modernized ice cream truck that uses proprietary and patented technology.  Take a listen...

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:45 - How Alsie's came to be

04:49 - The name Alsie's

06:19 - Alsie's technology

21:00 - Royalties

22:48 - Products for sale

28:04 - Revenue sources

33:30 - Changes in the ice cream truck industry

38:07 - The numbers

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Episode 107: On this episode of Pursuit of Profit, Cliff talks with Mike Pearce, chief development officer of Renew Medic. We are diving into the $66 billion restoration industry. Born out of Service Masters' Furniture Medic brand, Renew Medic focuses on one of the most expensive and overlooked areas of the house - kitchen cabinets. Using their proprietary process, they save insurance companies and their clients time and money. The item 19 is 7 figures while only operating 5 days a week.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:50 - History of Renew Medic growing from Furniture Medic

06:48 - Why Renew Medic focuses on cabinetry?

12:26 - Marketing focus

21:43 - Why large territories?

28:43 - Franchisees vs corporate stores

31:07 - Goal for franchisees

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