Join our discussion of these legendary Southern hemisphere explorers , Alexander von Humboldt & Sir John Forrest.   Pavel is joined by our German host Jon to discuss his fatherland's great man of science,  von Humboldt. Also joining us is Eurodingo , our friend from West Australia, who honors his state's founding father , Sir John Forrest!  Both men were incredible explorers of far off places, statesmen, and legends in their own time.