Is global peace worth $15 trillion a year? That’s the price tag Steve Killelea attached. Killelea is the philanthropist behind the Institute for Economics and Peace and author of the Global Peace Index. In this week’s episode he takes us beyond the deadly conflict in Ukraine to the regions we should worry about next, and explores ways of thinking to help us avoid the complacencies that blinded so much of the world to Russia’s intentions among its neighbors. 

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