The guys consider whether to make this a Romans 8 podcast, as they discuss what it means that God is for us. If nothing else can come against us, does that mean we will only win Super Bowls? Or might it mean something a good deal greater?

Tony's recommendation: The Argument, hosted by Jane Coaston, "Does Teaching America It's Racist Make It Less Racist?" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/opinion/race-theory-us-racism.html