Anson and Chris were kicking back at Groundfloor Oakland with some OG homies of the podcast, Good Fishing. Coming fresh of the sunset of their lifestyle brand, Sam Bostick and Vicken Donikian dropped by to chat about the lifecycle of creative endeavors, and reflect on some of the lessons that come along with an ever-evolving project. While it was a bittersweet closing chapter for that particular journey, it only marks the beginning of the next chapter. It was a great conversation about the creative freedom, carving new paths, and doing things on your own terms.