In this episode of The Art of Quality and Attention, William welcomes Nicolas Michaelsen. Nico is a Danish entrepreneur who, after years of building companies, turned his attention toward his own spiritual practice and the cultivation of wisdom within the business world. He writes the Substack Ecologies of Wisdom.

Over the past year, Nico has been a thoughtful voice on the subject of bringing one’s inner and outer worlds into alignment, speaking with openness and vulnerability about his own ongoing quest. In this conversation, William and Nico explore that journey in depth — discussing the practice itself, its mechanics and pitfalls, and the question of how we come to know what we know.

They reflect on different ways of thinking about knowledge and truth, asking questions such as: How do we know what is true? How do we recognize what we are meant to do? And how do we serve with integrity? These are some of the themes they enjoy riffing on throughout the episode.