My buddy Alex Pullen stopped by for a friendly conversation and i talked him in to recording a podcast. We talked a lot about the struggles of finding work during the pandemic, the potential opportunity for creative people during this time, comedy, hecklers, and we called our good friend James Mirabal to close out the conversation. Thanks for listening, stay safe out there, we love you all.

Intro/Outro music by Ethen Esparza https://soundcloud.com/hiphoptrip https://soundcloud.com/chavapeople

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