In this episode, I interview my dear friend Katie Perez, who's currently sidelined with Covid. She bravely chose to share her story on Facebook, a decision not always in line with popular sentiment. We talk about breaking stigma, shame vs. guilt, the awkward mechanics of making friends in your thirties, why my Halloween costume didn't freak her out, and how she's cross-stitching her way through the dumpster fire of 2020. Enjoy!