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Quest for Truth 100 Bible Survey 9 Disobedience Means Rejection
We finally reached the milestone of the 100th episode, but due to lingering illnesses, Keith falls back on a solo episode. It’s still the topic that was going to be presented, but he has to go it alone… sort of.
To make things more interesting than just having one voice to bore listeners to tears, there are a few guest voices to appear, and mix things up. One involves a new update to a bible app that Keith has been using. If you would like more details on it, drop a line to say so and we’ll be sure to share a link, and mention it in another show. For now just enjoy the contribution it makes.
Besides some Retrobots to do some reading, mostly from some input that Nathan shared about our bible passage, other voices from Keith’s other podcast make guest appearances.
The original title for this stop in the Bible survey was: Saul Fails and is Rejected: It says it all, as far as who is in it, and what’s happening at this moment in history. Nathan’s outline puts the title as: Who Had the Better Plan? And is maybe the better title, since it tags the happenings in a way that is relevant through the ages, and the perspective in how people ought to relate to God. But since it’s Keith’s site, and podcast, the title got hacked to pieces once again to reflect the relation of actions, and consequences. It’s still a good way to look at the principle of what’s happening, and why.
The focus is on 1 Samuel 15:17-23, but in the podcast Keith backs it up to the beginning of the chapter, so we can get a little more context of the clear instructions that needed no interpretation, or the need to put spin on a clearly defined mission.
1Sam 15 Review
1,2. God sends Samuel with a command for Saul.
3.
* Strike Amalek.
* Destroy all they have.
* Spare none.
* Kill Man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey
Note: Ouch. I know that’s harsh. It’s graphic. We are in no way encouraging, or condoning behavior like that. We’ve discussed the evil nature of this ancient tribe on the podcast before. Don’t get bogged down by the historic detail. Rather, consider what the principle behind it means. A clearly defined mission that has been presented to you to do.
4-7. Saul gathered the army. He warned the Kenites (non Amalekites) to flee. He defeated them.
Where it goes wrong.
8,9. Saul took king Agog alive, killed the rest. Saul and the people kept the best of livestock, killing only the worthless animals.
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decline for Saul
10-12. God tells Samuel what happened. Samuel is angry, and grieves all night. Samuel learns of a monument Saul set up for himself. A matter that seems to cause neither anger or grieff.
The confrontation.
13,16. Seeing Samuel, Saul greets him with blessings. Saul claims, “I have performed the command of the lord.” Samuel asked, why all the animal sounds in his ears? Saul becomes defensive of his actions, claiming the people did it. To sacrifice the animals to God. The worthless ones were killed.
Samuel told him, stop. Here’s what the lord already told me.
Focus
I. Saul was nobody. God had raised him up!
17 And Samuel said,
“Though you are little in your own eyes, are you not the head of the tribes of Israel? The LORD anointed you king over Israel.
II. Saul disobeyed God.
A. God told him specifically to do something. He had other ideas.
18 And the LORD sent you on a mission and said,
‘Go, devote to destruction the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are consumed.’
19 Why then did you not obey the voice of the LORD? Why did you pounce on the spoil and do what was evil in the sight of the LORD?”
B. Saul had his excuses,
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We finally reached the milestone of the 100th episode, but due to lingering illnesses, Keith falls back on a solo episode. It’s still the topic that was going to be presented, but he has to go it alone… sort of.
To make things more interesting than just having one voice to bore listeners to tears, there are a few guest voices to appear, and mix things up. One involves a new update to a bible app that Keith has been using. If you would like more details on it, drop a line to say so and we’ll be sure to share a link, and mention it in another show. For now just enjoy the contribution it makes.
Besides some Retrobots to do some reading, mostly from some input that Nathan shared about our bible passage, other voices from Keith’s other podcast make guest appearances.
The original title for this stop in the Bible survey was: Saul Fails and is Rejected: It says it all, as far as who is in it, and what’s happening at this moment in history. Nathan’s outline puts the title as: Who Had the Better Plan? And is maybe the better title, since it tags the happenings in a way that is relevant through the ages, and the perspective in how people ought to relate to God. But since it’s Keith’s site, and podcast, the title got hacked to pieces once again to reflect the relation of actions, and consequences. It’s still a good way to look at the principle of what’s happening, and why.
The focus is on 1 Samuel 15:17-23, but in the podcast Keith backs it up to the beginning of the chapter, so we can get a little more context of the clear instructions that needed no interpretation, or the need to put spin on a clearly defined mission.
1Sam 15 Review
1,2. God sends Samuel with a command for Saul.
3.
* Strike Amalek.
* Destroy all they have.
* Spare none.
* Kill Man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey
Note: Ouch. I know that’s harsh. It’s graphic. We are in no way encouraging, or condoning behavior like that. We’ve discussed the evil nature of this ancient tribe on the podcast before. Don’t get bogged down by the historic detail. Rather, consider what the principle behind it means. A clearly defined mission that has been presented to you to do.
4-7. Saul gathered the army. He warned the Kenites (non Amalekites) to flee. He defeated them.
Where it goes wrong.
8,9. Saul took king Agog alive, killed the rest. Saul and the people kept the best of livestock, killing only the worthless animals.
More
decline for Saul
10-12. God tells Samuel what happened. Samuel is angry, and grieves all night. Samuel learns of a monument Saul set up for himself. A matter that seems to cause neither anger or grieff.
The confrontation.
13,16. Seeing Samuel, Saul greets him with blessings. Saul claims, “I have performed the command of the lord.” Samuel asked, why all the animal sounds in his ears? Saul becomes defensive of his actions, claiming the people did it. To sacrifice the animals to God. The worthless ones were killed.
Samuel told him, stop. Here’s what the lord already told me.
Focus
I. Saul was nobody. God had raised him up!
17 And Samuel said,
“Though you are little in your own eyes, are you not the head of the tribes of Israel? The LORD anointed you king over Israel.
II. Saul disobeyed God.
A. God told him specifically to do something. He had other ideas.
18 And the LORD sent you on a mission and said,
‘Go, devote to destruction the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are consumed.’
19 Why then did you not obey the voice of the LORD? Why did you pounce on the spoil and do what was evil in the sight of the LORD?”
B. Saul had his excuses,