Welcome to Without Reform! We will be running multiple conversations side by side, so make sure to check out the episode title to know which thought train you are about to embark on.

This is Rabbit Trails. Our main focus will be modern church culture, deconstruction and how we got here/where do we go. Join in to hear why Joel thinks we might need to burn down the whole modern concept of church and how it parallels past times in the bible and church history. Friends will join in on the journey to discuss the points, tell Joel why he is wrong and ultimately find a path forward towards discovering the Real and Living God.

In this episode join Joel Meyer and Robert for a partial discussion about anarchy and structure. The main focus of the episode revolves around how to keep tension in important sectors of our lives-- the priest class and money. Have pastors replaced themselves as our high priests? Do we view money as a way to remember the poor or as a leverage point towards more glory for ourselves? Brian Cooper joins in half way through and we discuss what we view as the actual church as well as devolving into riffing on a bunch of topics. One of which is language. There are unedited swear words in this episode and it has been marked as explicit for that reason.

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Music: Funk in the Trunk by Shane Ivers – https://www.silvermansound.com