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When Shane Ivan Nash and Julianne met on the set of a Jubilee filming with Ben Shapiro, neither had the chance to truly connect amid the tension of that environment. Now they're making up for lost time in this candid, thought-provoking conversation about whose voices truly matter in progressive spaces.

Julianne, a brilliant and hilarious TikTok debater, unpacks her journey finding unexpected success in online political discourse while navigating the complex reality of being a Black woman in predominantly white leftist spaces. She describes the moment she realized why her content resonated with audiences - not because it was changing perceptions about Black women, but because she "subverted their expectations" by defying stereotypes.

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