Rachel Eliza Griffiths is a poet, visual artist, and novelist.

We chat about her stunning collection of poetry and photography, "Seeing the Body". Some of the topics we speak on include monumental loss and the grief that follows, memory, languages of sadness, taking action against despair, and pushing away the useless pressure of likability. Rachel Eliza also tells us about her many selves as an artist. 

This episode was audio produced by Aaron Moring. Theme music is by Madisen Ward.