If you enjoyed our chat about the digital disruption of the value of money, you're in luck because we had a lot more to discuss with Rachel O’Dwyer.

Rachel is a lecturer in digital cultures at NCAD and her recent book, Tokens: The Future of Money in the Age of the Platform, explores the historical concepts underpinning digital money, while looking to the future of transactions.

In this extended chat, we discuss the gendered attitudes to money that prevail, the kids growing up a world of in-game currencies and virtual gifts, as well as the utopianism of rebuilding money as a technology, and its failings.

If you want to jump straight to the stuff that wasn't in the main episode, skip to about 19:30 and then ahead to about 32:15 for more.

You can get Tokens wherever you find good books and you can follow Rachel’s work @rachelodwyer on Twitter.

You might also enjoy a look at the mad Meta ad mentioned at the end of the podcast: https://youtu.be/lfj-QH7IMxQ

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We hope you enjoy this discussion with Rachel as much as we did, and be sure to come back next week for an all-new episode.

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