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It's hard to talk about race, but race and politics during an election season? How do you have a constructive conversation instead of a heated debate? Dr. Bock breaks down the levels of conversation and shares biblically based insights about identity that can help us have conversations on the hard topics. Plus, hosts Markus Lloyd and Antwuan Malone discuss a new say what moment.  It's one that Antwuan personally experienced. 

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