John is joined by Chanea Bond. The pair reflect on what racial justice would look like in our educational system, how to navigate those individuals in schools who think it is about them, and why we must create spaces collectively in support of children.

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Chanea refers to Dr. Bettina Love's work a few times in the episode, and if you haven't read We Want to Do More Than Survive, you need to now!