How do you start to close the racial gap in our churches, and relationships? In this episode, Stephen talks with Dove award winner, Grammy and Staller award nominee, Jason Clayborn. The two are long time friends, and have been collaborating musical for years. They discuss the racial divide between the black gospel and white evangelical church cultures, and how their relationship is founded on respecting what each other brings to the table, and really taking the time to understand each others stories. Ultimately, it is this empty and respect that cultivates real love for one another.