In this episode, we tackle the difficult issue of racism. We discuss the possibility of the impact that your racial identity or cultural beliefs have on your access to the natural world.

We have an amazing conversation in which we put ourselves in the position of practitioners who want to look at conscious or unconscious bias in the form of racism, sexism or ageism and it makes us understand that we have a long way to go.

It's so important that we are honest and can have these conversations.

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