This episode: When discussing a topic as broad and important as Thought Leadership, you need to hear from people who actually THINK. I invited Jeff De Cagna, FASAE, Executive Advisor, Foresight First, and Dean West, FASAE, President, Association Laboratory to join me for this conversation because they are considered two of the leading thinkers when it comes to what's next for Associations specifically and nonprofit management broadly. We discuss major themes in this concept of thought leadership, what does it mean, how it applies to the future of association management, and we even get in a disagreement (briefly)! It's one of the longest episodes we've done so far, and it's the first time someone used an expletive (just the f-word once). What is the Maturity Arc of the True Thinker? That is one of the questions we explore along with the value of the future. Always fun, thought provoking, and uncomfortable in a good way talking with my long-time colleagues and friends. What does the future hold for thought leadership? Share a comment!