Rae Shawn is in conversation with Lisa Kessler about her venture into nonfiction publishing, the transition from traditional publishing to indie, and much more. The pair also discuss giving yourself grace as you try new things and not letting your internal demons run your actions.

Intro music: Weeknds - DayFox (pixabay)

Remember, no body puts Rae in a corner, unless she's gushing over books.

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