Our son Sauryn is naturally becoming curious about math right now. He wants to understand science. He creates constantly. Nobody forced any of it.

Learning arrived through readiness — and through years of trusting him with the freedom to just be a kid.

So when I sat down with Peter Gray for our Majik Family Podcast, I wasn't just interviewing a researcher. I was hearing someone put language to something my wife Celeste and I have been intuitively living.

Peter Gray is a research professor of psychology at Boston College and one of the world's leading voices on childhood, play, and self-directed learning.

He's spent decades studying how children naturally grow, learn, and become healthy adults. His work challenges almost everything mainstream culture tells us about education and childhood success.

We believe children don't need every minute optimized — they need space to wonder, play, create, and become who they are. This channel is for the parents and educators who feel that in their bones.Explore Peter Gray's Work

• Book: ​Free to Learn​
• Upcoming Book: Restoring Childhood
• Substack: ​Play Makes Us Human​
• Website: ​petergray.org​

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