Mikal sits down with Ramon Perez, who is a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and NSA veteran who served for over 13 years, including deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. After leaving the military in 2017, he became an AI consultant before founding and serving as Executive Director of the Digital Democracy Project. Motivated by the events of January 6, he now uses secure civic technology to give everyday voters a direct voice on pending legislation and help reduce hyperpartisanship.