In this open-hearted interview, we delve into how Randi transitioned from soul-sucking jobs into running a business she adores; older motherhood; how to enforce elegant boundaries when it feels difficult; what caused her to dig a consumer credit-shaped hole for herself in her 20’s, and the lifelines that helped her begin to climb out of it. The 3 key things that helped Randi get out of debt will be helpful for so many — as will her sage teachings on self-kindness.