This one’s raw, unfiltered, and straight from the heart—recorded on the move, gym-bound with no script in sight. In this episode, I dive into why Learning & Development leaders are some of the most underrated operators in the game. These folks don’t just design training—they architect culture, shape capability, and carry the weight of organizational evolution on their backs. And yet… they’re rarely in the spotlight.

Let’s call it out. Let’s celebrate them. Let’s really talk about the value they bring and why the future of work can’t be built without them.

If you’re an L&D pro, this one’s for you. If you’ve never given them their due? Time to listen up.