In the last episode of of 2022, hosts Jeanne Spiller and Matt Treadway engage in a conversation around leadership and the change process. Episode 4 features renowned educators Dr. Luis Cruz and Dr. Anthony Muhammad and highlights their best selling book Time for Change. Also joining the conversation is practioner Vail Kieser as she discusses the change process at both the school and district levels.

In the last episode of of 2022, hosts Jeanne Spiller and Matt Treadway engage in a conversation around leadership and the change process. Episode 4 features renowned educators Dr. Luis Cruz and Dr. Anthony Muhammad and highlights their best selling book Time for Change. Also joining the conversation is practioner Vail Kieser as she discusses the change process at both the school and district levels.

In the last episode of of 2022, hosts Jeanne Spiller and Matt Treadway engage in a conversation around leadership and the change process. Episode 4 features renowned educators Dr. Luis Cruz and Dr. Anthony Muhammad and highlights their best selling book Time for Change. Also joining the conversation is practioner Vail Kieser as she discusses the change process at both the school and district levels.&nbsp;

Real Change Requires Real Leadership

This show aims to speak directly to educators who want less fluff and more substance. Hosts Jeanne Spiller and Matt Treadway don't tap dance around the issues facing schools in the 21st century but instead address them head on. Real Talk focuses on real people working in real schools as they deal with very real situations.

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