Phil talks with Lance Ford, author of "The Starfish & The Spirit" and "The Atlas Factor," about the state of the church in America and how, through firmly rooting and maintaining the head of the Church in Jesus, we can begin to see the beautiful, biblical model of the Church that God intended. 

Lance will also be joining Recovery Church Movement for their annual Conference, April 12-14, 2024, in Nashville, TN. Register now for this incredible event!

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