Cian Griffin, your favorite Gaelgeoir's favorite Gaelgeoir, presents First Things First, a podcast where he chats to prominent people about all of life's unforgettable firsts, from their first job to their first last or their first time experiencing loss.

On today's episode Cian chats to a TV personality, hairstylist activist, and the first known transgender woman to have undergone gender reassignment surgery in Ireland in 1991, Rebecca de Havilland. We spoke about navigating being LGBTQ+ in the 70s when it was illegal to be gay in Ireland, getting suspended from school for knocking off her teacher's wig with a blackboard duster, and being randomly re-united with her daughter after 25 years while working at the Wright venue.

Trigger warning, this episode includes discussions around clerical abuse, addiction, and suicidal ideations.

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First Things First was recorded in Outhouse, so special thanks to Ruadhán and Shout Out for sorting us out with that.

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