In this conversation, Danielle and Derik discuss their experiences growing up in the church and navigating their sexuality. They share personal stories of bullying, shame, and self-harm, highlighting the need for more open and compassionate conversations within the church. They emphasize the importance of knowledge and understanding, recommending resources and books that can help bridge the gap between the church and the LGBTQ+ community. They also critique the rebranding of Pride Month by some churches, noting that true acceptance and love can only be shown through actions, not just words. In this conversation, Danielle and Derek discuss the importance of affirming the humanity of LGBTQ+ individuals and the need for Christians to embrace and love them without judgment. They emphasize that affirming someone's personhood does not mean condoning their actions, but rather recognizing their inherent worth as creations of God. They challenge Christians to engage with and understand the experiences of LGBTQ+ individuals, and to examine their own biases and fears. They also discuss the need for churches to create safe and inclusive spaces for all people, regardless of their sexual orientation.