This week we find ourselves back in the 90's yet again, but this time with the self-proclaimed "Punk for Pansies" Ben Folds Five and their second album Whatever and Ever, Amen. Martin was and is a big fan, with songs and melodies from this collection living pretty much rent free in his head. But what will Billy think of it? And has his amazing premonition of Sleep Token's rise to the top of the charts gone to his head?

Plus we talk live music venues, and what we can learn about the value of mechanical copyright from Taylor Swift.

Notes and corrections

**it's a clarinet, not an oboe.

**Battle of Who Could Care Less was the first single from the album, followed by Kate and then Brick

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