Confused, angered, and heartbroken by the push to weaken Israel’s independent judiciary? Not sure what to think? Rabbi Deborah Waxman, Ph.D., Reconstructing Judaism's CEO, and Rabbi Maurice Harris, its Israel affairs specialist, don't claim to have all the answers. Yet, they’ve each just spent extended stays in the country immersed in conversations about its future as well as its relationship with Diaspora Jewry. In conversation, they make an impassioned, moral defense of sustained engagement with Israel, even as they take a principled opposition to the government's attempts to strip away the country’s democratic character.  

Harris and Waxman describe what it’s like to be in Israel, and taking part in demonstrations, as this all unfolds. They explain the Reconstructionist commitment to a multi-vocal, multi-perspective conversation about Israel/Palestine as exemplified by the running debate on Evolve itself. Our guests also respond to several Evolve essays putting Palestinian suffering front and center. This is a grounding, not-to-be missed conversation about some of the most pressing questions facing the Jewish world today. 

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guests: Rabbi Deborah Waxman, Ph.D. and Rabbi Maurice Harris. Support Evolve Links:Rabbi Deborah Waxman on Israel, Kaplan & Diaspora JewsRead Rabbi Maurice Harris' Evolve essay, "My Israel/Palestine Learning Curve Is a Zigzag"Evolve's coverage of Israel/PalestineThe Situation in Hebron is OppressiveRabbi Maurice's Evolve Podcast episode on Israel and Ben & Jerry’sFrom the Trending Jewish archives: "The Accidental Rabbi" 

Episode 43: Reconstructionist Jews and the Struggle Over Israel’s Future

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It’s a supersized Passover edition of Evolve! First, Rabbi Nathan Kamesar drops by to discuss his recent essay, "The Legitimacy of the State of Israel: Surviving in a Hostile Region." Bryan and Nathan reflect on their respective relationships with Israel and Israeli politics. Nathan opens up about what it’s like being a pulpit rabbi and spiritual leader during wartime and how he’s been approaching his job the last few months (5:00). Nathan and Bryan offer some of their personal opinions about the Israel-Hamas war and war in general. Nathan shares which of the many unknowns he would most like to know in order to make sense of things. Bryan asks Nathan about his response to the recent Atlantic Magazine cover story “The Golden Age of American Jews is Ending” (31:05). Nathan reflects on how he’s thinking about Passover this year, how he’s trying to center empathy and why it’s impossible to avoid politics at the seder table (42:30). Then, for a special bonus interview, Reconstructing Judaism’s own Rabbi Maurice Harris stops by for a conversation with Sam Wachs about all things Moses, including his starring role in the new Netflix Docudrama Testament: The Story of Moses (54:30).  

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guests: Rabbi Maurice Harris and Rabbi Nathan Kamesar. Support Evolve Links:Sign up for Evolve's free newsletter to stay up to date on the latest essays, videos and podcastsRead Rabbi Nathan Kamesar's Evolve Essay, "The Legitimacy of the State of Israel: Surviving in a Hostile Region"Also from Rabbi Nathan, "Building Community is Most Essential"From The Atlantic, "The Golden Age of American Jews is Ending"Buy Rabbi Maurice Harris' book, "Moses: A Stranger Among Us"Read Rabbi Maurice Harris' Evolve essaysRead Bryan's behind-the-scenes story about how Rabbi Maurice Harris was cast in a hit Netflix showWatch "Testament: The Story of Moses" on Netflix

Episode 52: A Supersized Passover Episode: Rabbi Nathan Kamesar on the Israel-Hamas War; Rabbi Maurice Harris on his starring role in the new Netflix series Testament: The Story of Moses

Rabbi Haviva Ner-David, an activist and author, shares what it is like to live in Israel – and be a parent - right now, with all the heartbreak, confusion and glimmers of hope. In this conversation, the author and spiritual director discusses the personal losses she suffered on October 7 and after (9:18) She also shares anxiety about living in Israel’s north and how and why she’s recommitted herself to interfaith peace activism (22:10) and her work with the Standing Together, the grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel in pursuit of peace . With views on the conflict becoming ever more entrenched, Ner-David’s perspective is refreshingly iconoclastic. Whatever your perspective, left, right or center, she says something to challenge you.  

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guest: Rabbi Haviva Ner-David. Support Evolve Links:Reconstructing Judaism joins call for ceasefire, release of all hostages and increase in humanitarian aide to GazaSign up for Evolve's newsletter to receive exclusive contentCelebrate 10 years of Rabbi Deborah Waxman's leadership Support Evolve: Groundbreaking Jewish ConversationsRabbi Haviva's websiteRabbi Haviva's memoirs, novels, and moreRead Rabbi Haviva's February 2024 Evolve Essay, "The Other Side of the Rain: At a Cemetery in the Galilee"Read Rabbi Haviva's October 2023 Evolve essay, "Let Not Our Anger Blind Us: Jews and Palestinians in Israel"Read Rabbi Haviva's August 2023 Evolve essay, "Standing Together: A Redemptive Vision for Palestinian-Jewish Partnership"From JTA: "I’m an Israeli advocate for Israeli-Palestinian coexistence. We’re still in this together."From Rabbi Haviva's Times Of Israel blog: "Minding Our Own Business, and that of the Country"From Rabbi Haviva's Times of Israel Blog: "This is a Story to Open Your Hearts. Are you Willing?"Next Evolve Web Conversation: Against Free Will

Episode 51: Rabbi Haviva Ner-David on Life and Death in War and Advocating for Peace

The Reconstructionist Rabbinical Association was founded in 1974 to serve as the professional association of the small but growing number of rabbis affiliated with the Reconstructionist movements. These rabbis were trained with a very different approach than their peers in other movements. Rabbi Elyse Wechterman, the RRA’s CEO for roughly the past decade, discusses the transformation of the rabbinate and why it matters to everyone who cares about Jews and Judaism (5:00). She shares how disparate factors ranging from COVID to the emergence of the gig economy have shaped the rabbinate in unexpected ways (31:50). The discussion turns to how the events of October 7 and subsequent Israel-Hamas War have placed unprecedented strain on rabbis (44:45). There are some lighter moments as well. Wechterman quotes Billy Joel: “The good old days weren’t always good. Tomorrow ain’t as bad as it seems.” 

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guest: Rabbi Elyse Wechterman. Support Evolve Links:Sign up for Evolve's newsletter to receive exclusive contentSupport Evolve: Groundbreaking Jewish ConversationsRead Rabbi Elyse Wechterman's Evolve essay, "Evolving Roles of Rabbis in History and TodayCheck out Evolve's new essay collection, "Ever Evolving Rabbinate" in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the RRA "Keeping The Faith" by Billy Joel 

Episode 50: Rabbi Elyse Wechterman on the State of the Reconstructionist Rabbinate

After 20 years of work, Jay Michaelson —scholar, rabbi, lawyer, activist, meditation teacher —has published his first book of fiction, “The Secret That Is Not a Secret: Ten Heretical Tales” (03:30). The linked short stories focus on a range of Jewish characters: Men and women, Orthodox and secular, straight and gay, Israeli and American. Yet each carries a secret desire that could be described as queer, and their stories explore the nature of heresy, queerness, kabbalah, mysticism and the sometimes-thin line between erotic desire and religious yearning. Michaelson would probably have preferred we discussed “The Secret That Is Not a Secret” for the full episode. Yet, we’re living in a post October 7 world and Michaelson, who’d stopped writing about Israel about a decade ago, felt compelled to jump back in. In the Forward and Rolling Stone, he’s written about the ethics of war, the charged nature of the term genocide, the debate about campus antisemitism and the fates of the two Ivy League presidents forced to resign after public uproar. We delve into some of these op-eds (31:40) and discuss how’s he taken care of himself during one of the most emotionally trying times of his life.  

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guest: Jay Michaelson. Support Evolve Links:Support Evolve: Groundbreaking Jewish ConversationsSign up for Evolve's newsletter to receive exclusive contentOrder Jay Michaelson's new book, "The Secret That is Not a Secret"Jay Michaelson's writing in The ForwardJay Michaelson's writing in Rolling StoneTen Percent Happier (meditation and mindfulness)Jay Michaelson's Evolve Essay, "The Allure of the Antinomian … or How Jacob Frank Seduced Me"Jay Michaelson's website

Episode 49: Bestselling author Jay Michaelson on his new book of fiction, covering the Israel-Hamas war, campus antisemitism, and more

Can individual acts of loving-kindness really make a difference with Israel and Hamas at war? Rabbi Amy Eilberg, a longtime peace activist, says yes. Eilberg, the first woman ordained by the Conservative movement, believes that nearly everyone with a connection to Israel and Gaza — and maybe even those without such a direct connection — are experiencing pain and trauma. In this podcast, Eilberg explains that so many of us are consuming every op-ed and podcast about the conflict as a means to avoid deep pain. She shares her decades-long journey into metta meditation and how she turned to it after October 7. We also discuss how even though many Jews have felt isolated in recent months, she doesn’t buy into the narrative that the whole world is against Jews. Nor has she given up on coalition-building or the importance of anti-racism efforts. This is a pastoral conversation in which she addresses the feelings of pain, anger and hopelessness that host Bryan Schwartzman, and many others, have experienced during wartime. It’s about how individuals might seek healing and, maybe, how Jewish communities can address trauma to become healthier. 

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This podcast is produced by Reconstructing Judaism. Visit us at ReconstructingJudaism.org. Special Guest: Rabbi Amy Eilberg. Support Evolve Links:Sign up for Evolve's newsletter to receive exclusive contentRead Rabbi Eilberg's Evolve Essay, "Lovingkindness in a Time of War"Support Evolve: Groundbreaking Jewish ConversationsRabbi Eilberg's book, "From Enemy to Friend"Watch the Evolve web conversation with Rabbi Amy Eilberg in which she discusses her views on the conflict:Jewish wisdom on reparations:Read Rabbi Eilberg's previous Evolve essay, "Holding the Pain and the Love"

Episode 43: Reconstructionist Jews and the Struggle Over Israel’s Future

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