This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon dive deep into the creative and the cosmic while recording their new track “Shy.”
As the microphones roll, the conversation drifts beyond melody and lyrics — into a raw exploration of morality, duality, and what lies beyond the idea of good and evil. Can we exist in the grey? Can art be a bridge between darkness and light?
It’s an unedited, intimate session where philosophy meets sound, and music becomes a mirror for consciousness itself.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw
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Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.