Today's guest is Dr. Tracy Kemble, who works in the abuse and trauma recovery space, and she herself is a survivor of narcissistic abuse. Her book, the Narc-tion-ary, helps survivors make sense of their experiences by naming the complex dynamics of narcissistic abuse. It includes over 350 words and terms, as well as a self-assessment for anyone questioning their own experience. In this episode, she shares her insights into how trauma fuels both narcissists and the people they victimize, and speaks to the centrality of self-love and self-respect for recovery.

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