Pen and Harvey discuss recovery, including what it means, their own experiences, and what the roadmap can look like.

Featuring: We have jobs (and it makes podcast recording hard to do); Harvey Is Forced To Define Recovery; Piano Lessons & Childhood Trauma; Don't yell at 7 year olds; Sometimes recovery just means being okay enough; "26" by Paramore; Hope.

USA Suicide Prevention:
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

Crisis Textline (both SMS and What'sApp friendly):
https://www.crisistextline.org/

International Suicide Hotlines:
https://www.opencounseling.com/suicide-hotlines

Suicide Hotline & Resources for Trans People:
https://translifeline.org/

Suicide Hotline & Resources for LGBTQ+ Young People (including text and online chat options):
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/

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