In this episode, Chris and Lee are joined by the brilliant and refreshingly honest Nathyn.

Fresh off his 40th birthday and proudly owning his identity as a combined ADHDer, Nathyn takes us on a journey from the corporate grind to carving out his own path in diversity and inclusion — with a special focus on neurodiversity. He opens up about getting diagnosed later in life, years of masking, and the “aha” moments that led him to become a passionate advocate and start his own consultancy.

But it’s not all deep reflection — expect some spicy takes too. Together, the trio dive into what’s really going wrong in corporate D&I efforts. From performative “tick-box” exercises to the hollow fanfare around calendar dates like Black History Month, nothing’s off-limits. Their message? Stop the surface-level stuff. Instead, look inward, do the work, and recognize the incredible (and often hidden) neurodiverse talent already in your workplace.

Oh and we can't forget about a memorable 'what are you dunking' anecdote!